The eBay 198x Demo Cassette
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:49 pm
Okay folks,
In light of the recent posts in the eBay thread, I have contacted a couple of hipbasers with the news.
Despite my eBay bid of $275US, which was the 2nd highest/2nd last bid in the auction, I obviously didn't win the tape. My plan was to share it, but noticing that the HipTracker bank-account has dwindled, and considering that many people here wanted to contribute to a "group-bid", I thought I'd use the demo tape to raise some money towards the Tracker costs.
Of course, I didn't win it, and I felt sick to my stomach, as was sure I would.
However, 15 minutes after the auction ended, I sent a message to the seller, offering a financial bribe for a copy of the tape before he sent it to the winning bidder. He replied that he would do that for me, and I drove to Pickering on Easter Sunday, and picked up a copy of the tape.
Lets just say, that my offer was more than the $150 he's now selling copies for, but less than the $300+CAD the winning bidder paid.
I was dying to make it public that I had a copy of the tape, reading the posts in this thread. I don't think anybody here can question my integrity in getting recordings out to the public, however this was a different situation, in that I had obtained it by bribing the seller of an official auction.
The last position I want to be in, is to put the seller's integrity into question, having made a copy for me after the auction. I also didn't think it fair to the buyer of the cassette, to have the material freely available online following the hyped auction. It wasn't really my recording to share, even though I had a copy.
I told myself that I wouldn't mention this to anyone, unless I found out that money was being made from the recording outside of the auction, and my purchase. I fully understood when I bought the copy that the seller may sell it to other people, but there was a chance that I could have been a special situation as I had placed an extemely high bid in the auction.
Reading yesterday's posts from Dana, and the following offers of donation from hipbasers, I realized that the seller was still selling copies, and that there was no need for hipbasers to give this guy more money for the recording. I promptly told Dana to not purchase a copy of the cassette, explaining everything here.
Now that this recording is available publically from a source other than the winning bidder, I will plan to release it on the HipTracker, for everyone to enjoy.
It was suggested to me that I try and re-coup the money I paid, but to me, the costs are no different than those incurred by the tapers on the board that spend money putting shows together for others, or those who run the web-sites promoting the Hip.
I have been in contact with Chris, and as my original intentions were to try and raise some money to offset the costs of the HipTracker, I intend to keep on with that plan.
Therefore, I have asked Chris to send me an email, when $150 of new donations to the HipTracker have been accepted, at which point, I'll torrent the demos for everybody. I figure if people are willing to raise money to buy a copy, why not use that same amount towards a service that the community already uses, instead of giving more money to the seller.
Rock'n Roll!
srb
In light of the recent posts in the eBay thread, I have contacted a couple of hipbasers with the news.
Despite my eBay bid of $275US, which was the 2nd highest/2nd last bid in the auction, I obviously didn't win the tape. My plan was to share it, but noticing that the HipTracker bank-account has dwindled, and considering that many people here wanted to contribute to a "group-bid", I thought I'd use the demo tape to raise some money towards the Tracker costs.
Of course, I didn't win it, and I felt sick to my stomach, as was sure I would.
However, 15 minutes after the auction ended, I sent a message to the seller, offering a financial bribe for a copy of the tape before he sent it to the winning bidder. He replied that he would do that for me, and I drove to Pickering on Easter Sunday, and picked up a copy of the tape.
Lets just say, that my offer was more than the $150 he's now selling copies for, but less than the $300+CAD the winning bidder paid.
I was dying to make it public that I had a copy of the tape, reading the posts in this thread. I don't think anybody here can question my integrity in getting recordings out to the public, however this was a different situation, in that I had obtained it by bribing the seller of an official auction.
The last position I want to be in, is to put the seller's integrity into question, having made a copy for me after the auction. I also didn't think it fair to the buyer of the cassette, to have the material freely available online following the hyped auction. It wasn't really my recording to share, even though I had a copy.
I told myself that I wouldn't mention this to anyone, unless I found out that money was being made from the recording outside of the auction, and my purchase. I fully understood when I bought the copy that the seller may sell it to other people, but there was a chance that I could have been a special situation as I had placed an extemely high bid in the auction.
Reading yesterday's posts from Dana, and the following offers of donation from hipbasers, I realized that the seller was still selling copies, and that there was no need for hipbasers to give this guy more money for the recording. I promptly told Dana to not purchase a copy of the cassette, explaining everything here.
Now that this recording is available publically from a source other than the winning bidder, I will plan to release it on the HipTracker, for everyone to enjoy.
It was suggested to me that I try and re-coup the money I paid, but to me, the costs are no different than those incurred by the tapers on the board that spend money putting shows together for others, or those who run the web-sites promoting the Hip.
I have been in contact with Chris, and as my original intentions were to try and raise some money to offset the costs of the HipTracker, I intend to keep on with that plan.
Therefore, I have asked Chris to send me an email, when $150 of new donations to the HipTracker have been accepted, at which point, I'll torrent the demos for everybody. I figure if people are willing to raise money to buy a copy, why not use that same amount towards a service that the community already uses, instead of giving more money to the seller.
Rock'n Roll!
srb