Ottawa DVD Coming Soon

[jkdiamond]

man, i really need a dvd burner! this looks good scooby, thanks!

I'll be happy to burn DVD or audio (of any shows I have or can get) for B&P. The offer's open to anyone who doesn't have a burner, is "torrent-challenged" or whatever. Check the link in my sig for a list that's practically current.


I don't necessarily want to limit the offer to those in the US, but unless it's possible for Canadians (or other non-US residents) to purchase and affix US postage in their native countries, I'm not sure how a legitimate B&P would be accomplished.

~Scott

I will gladly do it for those Canadians. To cover the other half of the continent. Same offer I made to everyone on the Toronto B&P applies for this show as well.

[chris]

For cross border shoppers, I have had people send me additional blank DVDs in exchange for me paying for the return postage. It's not ideal, but it works. I used to have a blanks to Canadian dollars exchange rate posted on my trading site.

[Hairbird]

I don't necessarily want to limit the offer to those in the US, but unless it's possible for Canadians (or other non-US residents) to purchase and affix US postage in their native countries, I'm not sure how a legitimate B&P would be accomplished.

A couple of years ago, I was doing a lot of B&P's with people in the US. I ordered a roll of 100 stamps online from the USPS. They were delivered within a few days. I'd just stick on the appropriate number to cover the cost of shipping back to Canada, depending on the number of discs involved.

[exnihilio]

Any ETA on this guy?

The screenies had me salivating at the mouth...

Thx

[quote="Hairbird"][quote="scottitude"]I don't necessarily want to limit the offer to those in the US, but unless it's possible for Canadians (or other non-US residents) to purchase and affix US postage in their native countries, I'm not sure how a legitimate B&P would be accomplished.[/quote]

A couple of years ago, I was doing a lot of B&P's with people in the US. I ordered a roll of 100 stamps online from the USPS. They were delivered within a few days. I'd just stick on the appropriate number to cover the cost of shipping back to Canada, depending on the number of discs involved.[/quote]

[scooby]

hiya all heres an update i'v got the footage ready to go and i'm almost finished the menus etc

extras on disc #2 will be:
grey cup performance
vaccination scar debut with hockey clips
news clip from new RO Ottawa day of show
+ photo gallery

very soon people very soon

later

mike

[exnihilio]

Um..wow!

Extra features & menus? I figured this was just going to be a "put it in and watch the show" type dealie.

Pardon my ignorance but is this common place for Hip boots? Seems like alot of work. Hip should buy the master off you and market the sucker.

Be tough to watch that vaccination Scar cbc footage though....bad mojo there for Sens fans.

<sigh>

Seriously though...thanks for all the hardwork...sounds like it'll be amazing!

ex

[das_hips]

Awesome... just awesome...can't wait...

When the DVD is up on the torrent and such, how hard is it to replace the video-camera's audio with the 'livedownloads' show we are apparently going to be offered for purchase? I got some Cakewalk Sonar 4 program that i (illegally) downloaded and have been recording with for a few weeks and such, and its a damn powerful tool. Does anybody know if this software can undertake such a task, or is it impossible because of the format of the file? I just thought it would be interesting to add sound-board quality audio with what appears to be a phenominal DVD.

When I become Governor General you're all getting the Order of Canada... good work guys...

[exnihilio]

Sorry to dissappoint but you may want to scope out this thread:

http://www.hipbase.com/forum/viewtopic. ... c&start=60

Check the post about 6 from the bottom...
Looking like it may be a moot point as the show may not come out at all via livedownloads. May just hafta settle for the original audio.

ex out

[quote="das_hips"]Awesome... just awesome...can't wait...

When the DVD is up on the torrent and such, how hard is it to replace the video-camera's audio with the 'livedownloads' show we are apparently going to be offered for purchase? I got some Cakewalk Sonar 4 program that i (illegally) downloaded and have been recording with for a few weeks and such, and its a damn powerful tool. Does anybody know if this software can undertake such a task, or is it impossible because of the format of the file? I just thought it would be interesting to add sound-board quality audio with what appears to be a phenominal DVD.

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[briansmccabe]

Well, now that the Ottawa show IS available from LiveDownloads, lets discuss the ethics of utilizing the audio for the DVD. To answer the previous question, it's not hard at all as long as you have the right software (I do, as I'm sure others here do as well).

My personal opinion on the matter is a) if I were to download the DVD and replace the audio with the LiveDownloads audio that I paid for, I would be well within my rights. b) If I were to do this and then give someone else a new copy of the DVD with the LiveDownloads audio and that person had not paid for the LiveDownloads audio, I may be getting into some questionable territory. That person could in turn rip the audio from the DVD for audio-only listening pleasure and wham - they have the LiveDownloads audio without having paid for it.

[Hairbird]

My personal opinion on the matter is a) if I were to download the DVD and replace the audio with the LiveDownloads audio that I paid for, I would be well within my rights. b) If I were to do this and then give someone else a new copy of the DVD with the LiveDownloads audio and that person had not paid for the LiveDownloads audio, I may be getting into some questionable territory.

You would most certainly be well beyond any questionable territory. By all means, do it for your own enjoyment, but please don't distribute the LiveDownloads audio. There's no, "only in Canada" argument, or anything like that for these shows. Either buy them, or do without. Please don't distribute.

[scooby]

HIYA ALL

well i've paid for and d/l my ottawa 11/28/04 flac snbd
and man it sound fraekin amazing
its raelly hot,very loud recording
but man itsfull sound just like you were there
i love it!!!!!

anyways on the whole soundboard w/video thing
i'm gonna do 2 versions of the show one with the camera audio
which does sound very very nice
i was just behind the soundboard area anyways so i was in the "sweet" spot
and i will do a version with the snd audio for myself
i've done audio mapping several times alraedy with great results
and man ist cool sometime stooa nd with this sweet fooatge i shot teh snbd audio will fit nicely
if theres anyone who wants to talk snbvd drop an opinion
i in no way want to piss off livedowonloads or nuthin but i paid for mine


have a hip day

mike

[das_hips]

Scooby... I'm not a strong reader, never have been, but I didn't really understand a whole lot of that...

Anyways... what I was originally asking was if these *.vto files (or whatever they are called) are capable of being tweaked/enhanced, what have you, with other audio. Like the Toronto DVD, it seems to come in a complete package... will replacing the audio on these folders cause the burned DVD not to function properly? Once the replacement of the audio is done, can it be restored into that whole 'VT_Video' folder and still have it burned as a disc image and function in its entirety as if no changes had been made?

I think some of you probably know what I'm asking, I tried to make it as clear as possible, but I'm not good at this kind of stuff...

If it is possible, what software would you recommend for such a task?

[chris]

The audio on the fan produced DVDs is contained in the same files as the video. (Of which there are multiple .vob files. You would have to extract the audio, sync up the new audio, and then properly compress it for DVD burning/viewing.

There must be software out there that can do it, but I imagine it is fairly high-end, and not readily available on the popular P2P networks.

Cakewalk, as I understand it, is strictly a music recording/modifying tool. The task you are talking about requires video capabilities as well. I am using Final Cut Pro, and so far, don't see anyway of doing it after the show has been converted to DVD.

[briansmccabe]

This is a generalization for the sake of brevity, but here's how you would do it:

1) copy the DVD's *.vob files to your hard drive

2) using a small, free app called DVD2AVI, convert the *.vob files to AVI format. NOTE: it is important that when you are outputting AVI files in this step that you get as close to an uncompressed video output as possible. Outputting the files as completely uncompressed AVI files *is* possible in this app, but you have to have a kickass machine to do it. If your machine is not up to snuff, the app will simply crash when you try to output to uncompressed AVI.

3) Import those AVI files into your nonlinear editor of choice (Chris mentioned he used Final Cut Pro, a phenomenal editing environment. I was schooled on Adobe Premiere, so I use it and it is great as well). Also import the audio files you downloaded from LiveDownloads, preferably WAV files that came from the FLAC version of the download.

4) Using the timeline in the NLE, sync the audio files up with the video files. This could potentially involve trimming a few frames of video and /or audio here and there, or perhaps "re-calibrating" segments of video or audio to play at slightly different speeds (the difference should be so small that it is unnoticeable).

5) Output the footage you have created as an AVI file, again avoiding compression completely if possible OR if your NLE allows you to, output as a DVD-compliant MPEG-2 file. Premiere does this (though I never use that feature); I dunno if FCP does or not. If you are able to export as an MPEG-2, once it is complete you are ready to author / burn your DVD. If not, see step 6.

6) Convert your AVI file that you exported out of your NLE to a DVD-compliant MPEG-2 file. There are a few apps that perform this task, but my preference is TMPGENC hands down. Once this is completed, you're ready to author / burn your DVD.

You know, now that I have walked through all of that in my head, I realize it is relatively high-end stuff. As I mentioned, you have to have a kickass computer - i.e., really, really fast CPU and about a gig of DDR RAM. You also need an enormous hard drive. The one DVD I have done all of this with wound up generating a 66 gigabyte AVI file. I kinda doubt that lower-end video editing systems really allow for the flexibility you will likely need in order to pull this off, and Adobe Premiere costs in the neighborhood of 500 bucks (Final Cut Pro is more, I think). You'll also probably need a full version of TMPGENC which is around 50 bucks.

So much for brevity. I studied this sort of thing in college and I also run a company that specializes in DVD authoring so this sort of thing is all familiar to me, but if you're brand new to editing, A/V stuff etc, you may want to pass on this project. It's a doozie.

[das_hips]

damn... that sounds like a lot of work...

I use cakewalk Sonar Producer 4... retails for about $800 USD... it does have the option of adding video and audio in one project... its fairly high end stuff...

I know I'm rambling on and on about this 'concept'... but if the audio files were .WAV instead of .AVI would that matter? I'm assuming it would massively increase the size of the DVD... and are .VOB files just a video/audio merged format? Can they be be converted to MPEG instead of AVI?

Maybe I'm way off the map with this technical stuff... I suppose I could just plug my CD Audio into my receiver instead of the DVD RCA jacks and just play with the timing...